This Week in Health Tech

Using Technology to combat COVID-19

March 18, 2020 Vik Patel and Jimmy Kim Season 1 Episode 11
This Week in Health Tech
Using Technology to combat COVID-19
Show Notes Transcript

Jimmy and Vik would first of all like to thank all healthcare staff with the growing demand for healthcare services and risking your own health to take care of patients. 
In this episode, Vik and Jimmy comment on the COVID-19 situation and impact on general life and businesses especially healthcare. 
They talk about the use of hospital intranet and hospital websites to keep the community updated on the outbreak and steps to take when you think you have symptoms of coronavirus. 
Vik also mentions technology used in different countries to deal with COVID-19. They also comment on lessons we we will learn from this virus outbreak and how hospitals can upgrade their framework to be better prepared in future. 

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spk_0:   0:00
Welcome to another episode of this weekend. Health check where we cover the latest news and trends in the health industry. My name's Jimmy Kim and, thankfully, company by my co hosted a victor Tell what's going on. Hey, I'm here. There was lots going on, right?

spk_1:   0:15
There is a lot going on in this world.

spk_0:   0:18
It was crazy because we just talked, like, a couple weeks ago and today. Totally different. Five different,

spk_1:   0:26
Really different. Yeah. Different. Yeah, I was on my way to hymns, and they actually can't. They ended up canceling the conference, and I think rightfully so, right. I mean, I think that was the right decision. It actually, in my opinion, it actually took way longer than it should have. You know, that conference should have been cancelled a couple weeks before the start date. But anyways, I think at the end they made the right decision. It was a tough decision, so I totally understand. But

spk_0:   0:55
but do you think you think it was the right decision? Because, like, I think Well, you know, maybe at that time, like everyone, it was like Russian toe close things out. We're We're closing more and more things out like now, Like just things that happened to us in general life. How many more of these things were gonna close down?

spk_1:   1:10
Well, they are actually mentioning both in U. S. And Canada off imposing some kind of like restrictions on everything. You know, closing, banning everything other than hospitals, gas stations, grocery shops. And, you know, is it is it an extreme step? Maybe not, because if you look at Italy and Spain, I mean this thing. This virus is spreading very rapidly, right? I think in Italy, they just announced in one day they had 3500 new cases. So I totally understand what you're saying. You know, maybe, are we going to be making an extreme step here? You know, every calling it

spk_0:   1:50
before Is that because there's a difference between I mean, yes, I think the infected numbers are are high, right? Like, that's a That's a That's a lot of people.

spk_1:   1:58
It is a lot of people in one day, and you know, we are lucky so far. Maybe maybe we are. You know me. I don't know how many tests have actually been done right. Roads in U. S. And Canada we actually have very limited number off kids, the testing kids. So the numbers may be way higher than them all we know. So maybe it is actually good, too. Have the social distancing in place. And you know what? Maybe they're saying Okay, we trust everyone. You know, everyone is smart. We have educated citizens. Good, but well, actually, take the staff of banning people meeting, and you're more than 50 people or 100 people, and and and even let's go ahead and shut down workplaces and that, you know, if you are not barking in a hospital or grocery shop or gas stations don't stay home,

spk_0:   2:51
Matt Stone.

spk_1:   2:51
And that that affects you a lot. I told you. Understand? You know, your primary job is actually as a trainer. I mean, you you have a lot of clients, you meet with them. So So tell me, how is how is that affecting you?

spk_0:   3:04
Pretty much. It's affected me greatly. Like I don't, uh I have no, no, most no gyms to train out of because there are closing down, and with the potential of it being just shut down, if it's if these places decide not to close down all the programs that that I do, they're they're shut down because the corporations airplay, basically telling people for war from home. So people like myself, we don't have the option to work from home. You know, I still do online training, but that wasn't Ah, that was never the main source of income for me. So for me, like this is this is, um I guess, like, you know

spk_1:   3:35
what, Jimmy? What? What about? Will this give you an opportunity to actually expand the online training? Right. So So this is where? And I think you know, let's talk about what are when our topic is today. And it is covert 19 and using technology to combat Corbett 19 right? And how do we use technology and health care?

spk_0:   3:58
Honestly, man, I'm I'm, like, 50 50 on it. Like I believe, like we I think the the whole, um the whole concept of us, like just being more hygienic. I'm I'm all for that. I think that is, that's huge. And it's just gonna cut not just not just cove it, but also like any other just general diseases that we that we that we care around that we pass on to each other is essential. That's what we do is not just with covert rights with every other cold flu. You all

spk_1:   4:25
right?

spk_0:   4:26
Yeah, s t eyes, all that stuff, man. All that stuff we can pass on any time.

spk_1:   4:31
It what you think it's because Is it media? I mean, media's covering the fax. Hopefully, yeah, for for most. Ah, I think most people are right. I mean, the rates are that the rates don't lie. I mean, the numbers, you know, the whole 3.5% death rate is way higher than the usual flu, which is less than weigh less than 1%. I think it's more like 10.1 or point to, so that actually really stands out. And I think that's why everyone's taking all these precautions and closing the borders. And and, you know, now it's like, OK, even within the country, they're closing down, you know, pretty much everything other than the essentials. But like right outside my window right now, you know, I see kids playing basketball and street hockey. It's obviously not affecting them that much. I mean, the schools are closed for a few weeks, which is obviously again affecting parents alive. You know, to be now lumber. Lot of the parents are working from home. Actually, my wife, she just called me about five minutes ago before we started the podcast. And she's she's looking. She's out there looking for monitors, right? Because she's gonna work from home and she's like, I need a monitor. Laptops not enough. So and then she's like, You know what? They're sold out off monitors in Best Buy and Staples and all these places as she visited. She's like they're sold out. So, you know, is it affecting the economy? Maybe it is. But at the same time, it looks like the grocery shops. You know, all these big Wal Marts and and all lob laws and all the other grocery shops are probably actually doing okay. It will affect other cos I mean, it's definitely in health. Gator. It's not affecting health care business, but it is affecting travel and entertainment. And, you know, even in your case, I'm in the fitness industry to and to a certain extent as well,

spk_0:   6:40
not to a certain standard of big extent. I got a lot of ah, because I don't have. Ah, I don't have a brick and mortar business, right? I don't I don't own I don't know. My business owner own a building where my business is, actually, and we're with multiple locations programs, but for for a lot of my friends out there that that own Jim's there. I don't I Would you How would you say? Like they know that shutting down should is the right thing to do, but they're thinking of their bills on and and or they feel like public pressure to shut down there. Jim.

spk_1:   7:11
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's what happened. Even with hymns, right? I mean, monetarily, it was definitely a big head for them. And but the public pressure, you know, on Twitter and Arlington, you know, everyone questioning. Hey, all these conferences are canceled. How come one of the biggest health care tech conference is still on, right. So I think that pressure finally probably, you know, made their decision a little bit easier in terms of OK, yes, we you know, we probably should cancel, and they did ended up canceling, but and again, in your case, I mean, you know, the gyms that are open, they probably would get public pressure. And now, maybe even from the government if they're coming out with a mandate off, No everything other than groceries and grass, gas stations and hospitals. You know, everything else needs to be closed down. Yeah, I mean that that definitely affects a lot of people. Um, so, yeah, I think I think we will feel the effects off this whole shut down. And, um, maybe, maybe not instantly, but I think we will see this right in couple of weeks. Or maybe you and few months down the road.

spk_0:   8:26
Well, I look at this is like I think it's great experiment, you know, this is ah, you want to see what a large what what a large population would be like to work from home. You wanna have stats on, like, their general mood, where they were more productive? This is, I think, a fantastic staff for that. And it just so happens to be, um you know, coming around, I guess a pretty coincidental time or a pretty good time, depending how you look at it with fi g coming out right, and everybody's gonna be on there. Let's let that's What a great way to another way. That's like test the, um you know, like that to look at this as one big one big test to see how this all works out,

spk_1:   9:05
right? And we'd we talked about five g and, you know, remote devices, you know, remote monitoring and all that. But I think in this case, it's actually the whole, you know, workers working remotely. I mean, even in hospitals, right? I mean, not everyone is frontline health worker. Everyone who is not front line is actually in a lot of our clients. We do see the communication going out, and they're actually advising a lot of those employees to work from home and in some cases, So we also ah, you know, our team also manages intranet. It's a lot of the hospitals, and what we have seen lately is actually, they're putting up volunteer registrations, right? So what they're doing is because so many people are walking in in in e. R. And in clinics. It's really hard just for the frontline staff, the registration staff to actually handle the inflow. So they're putting up volunteer registration forms where other employees can actually help out and, you know, work in certain blocks of ours and say Okay, yeah, I will help out. I mean again, they will be given protective gear and and instructions and all that. But, you know, these are some of the changes that we're seeing right again. An example, you know, very, very simple attacker. You know, at the end of the day and Internet, right, it's It's a site that's only for employees, but it's actually a very good, very good tool that's available for the organization to actually spread. And I shouldn't say the word spread. Sorry.

spk_0:   10:46
Get out, Thio. Do

spk_1:   10:49
announce the news and people just 1/2 really informed. But yeah, so that's one example you know, a very basic example, but still very, very effective example.

spk_0:   10:59
Eventually getting used way more now

spk_1:   11:01
Raymore right and and the Education Department is using it. The administration department is using it. They all are, and really good messages out for the staff because there's also a lot of fake news, right? There's also a lot of news that would actually give you more anxiety than then actually help you in terms off. Hey, what's really you know, how do we actually keep yourself our family safe and everything, but let's let's talk about some of the other really high tech right like that's being used. I mean, a lot of it. So this started in China. And obviously China is a little bit ahead in terms of the technology and the tools that they're using. But one of the things that I thought was really interesting, you know, in terms off, like checking like who actually has or may potentially had have Corbett 19. So they have developed smart helmets for cops. So you're you're reading this smart helmets, and if you come within five meters off those helmets, and if it detects that you have fever and you know, ah, it's not really clear on what other criteria it's using, but it'll actually ring a bell in the help

spk_0:   12:22
ringing alarm in there. Let him know that his body temperature's rye.

spk_1:   12:27
Everyone move away from this person, which is kind of, you know, again, from a privacy standpoint, it's it's really not the greatest, but actually from held standpoint and kind of, you know, warning people pretty good, right? I mean, it's like alerting everyone the other one I told was pretty cool was, you know, these acts that they have developed so again being in China, You know, the privacy laws are probably pretty much non existent by one of the things that using face detection, you know, these APS will actually alert. So if you have this app, right, And if I potentially have been in contact with somebody who has current a virus, even though I don't have current admires, it will actually alert me that. Hey, Vic has been in contact for Fitz. Somebody who had current off.

spk_0:   13:25
How would they do that?

spk_1:   13:27
Well, they're They're tracking, right? They're tracking everybody who has current virus. And because, like, for example, Ali pay or reach at they they can, because you have it on your phone. They're tracking you right with GPS. They know your location, and they know the location of somebody else who has colonel virus. Oh, the's too. Or in close proximity and bump, you know. Here you go. Now on. No, I'm flag. So you know, they are using that kind of technology to, And if you're down all these abs, it'll attract people who have corona virus and people who have also actually come in contact close contact with people who had current A virus. So it's good. But at the same time, from a privacy standpoint, you know, not that great.

spk_0:   14:19
Not that great. But I mean, it's it's, you know, it's crazy how I think you alluded to this before, but like, industries are changing, so we can either do one of two things. One just say, Hey, let's, um let's sit back. Let's wait to see if this this blows over and, um, you know who who? You know. You know all that stuff, right? Or

spk_1:   14:40
are you change

spk_0:   14:41
or you or you go with it. You change,

spk_1:   14:43
right? And I think someone was we're talking of, You know, I thought it pretty much everyone today has capability in their company for remote working, right? But apparently that's not the case. A lot of companies did not have the right technology or did not have policies in place to actually handle. Hey, fyi, if our staff is working from home, this is how they should do it. And of these are how many hours You know, how we're gonna communicate all that stuff, which I was really surprised. But maybe, like you said, I mean, this is This is probably, you know, if you look at it, maybe it's an opportunity to actually get those policies and get that technology in place, right? Whether it's using it, whether it's using VPN or whether it's using Zoom by the resumes. Stock has gone through the roof because everyone's thinking, Hey, we we will need to have meetings remotely and, you know, and in not face to face. So that's fine, you know, Used attack that's available for And, you know, again we are. We're using Skype right now. I mean Skype. You know, Microsoft. You know, all these technologies are available, but you do need to have it in place. Or maybe now it's a good time to actually invest to have that in place. I mean, our staff. So we use Google Sweet and you know, we have been using it for a while. So in our case, all pretty much all our staff, you know, everyone works remotely, and we have central offices. But again, we already had a policy in place where he can more criminally and how we communicate remotely so it doesn't affect us that much, which is good. But have you ever Weaver lucky in some case, that we actually already had a model in place where everyone is working from different places in different regions and be already are used to communicating with each

spk_0:   16:41
other? I'm up for me, and I've started tightening, tightening that and that and my my business as well How to better communicate with my clients during during this time. Dude, I made Ah, I have put up the YouTube. I put a YouTube video, maybe like 45 years, brother. Okay, You know, this be a good beating to put out and let my clients know what is going on and what is going on with my situation. Everyone's been asking me like what I've been up to these days, you know, during it.

spk_1:   17:06
This is the way. I mean, who knows? Like I mean, the way it's changing the world is changing. We are like, What if this this whole virus situation happens every three years every five years, like, let's be prepared for that.

spk_0:   17:22
But don't you think it has been, though, right? We've had we had one of these is that these are the most recent scares. I think I feel like Zika h one n one. Get the SARS,

spk_1:   17:34
SARS, Ebola,

spk_0:   17:35
Ebola like it's always like this thing, but this But this one is, um yeah, I don't know. I guess the narrative of it, the how it easily could be affected by everyone how easily everyone is getting affected by it. Uh,

spk_1:   17:50
the transfer rate is is really high. And because it has this whole membrane around it that protects the virus. So it's stay it. It's, you know, even if you touched, let's say you are taking subway or something and you touch one of the poles. And if you had Colonel virus even after six hours, apparently it still stays active. It's not dead. So you know, that's why I think the transfer rate is really high. But anyways that let's talk about some of the other technologies that are available or are being used to combat Corbett, 19 and one of the ones you know, for example, tracking and forecasting outbreaks. So you know, boo DOT is one of the Canadian service is one of one of the Canadian companies that's using I to track all these infectious diseases, right? And apparently now it's coming out. And I don't know why people didn't pay a lot more attention before, But blue dots A I actually warned off this threat developing a few days before CDC and Hoop. You know, the World Health Organization actually, uh, issued public warnings. So maybe that day I did work and you talked about in our previous episodes where a. I can be used to actually forecast outbreaks a lot better than then. It's today, right? Avery and especially if he opened up health data. Ah, so where service is like Blue dogs and others can take advantage of it and hopefully warn us a lot faster than then in the situation that we are currently

spk_0:   19:36
Well, I think I think that's I think that's where you and I will probably agree the most. Like I definitely feel like a I would be the would be the big factor that will help us prevent things like this to help us. We have the track things like this, you know, it's just that part makes a lot of sense,

spk_1:   19:50
right, because then if we have a lot more knowledge, right, like if you are prepared to deal with it. I think I think most people will not be that scared, right? Like if you already know if you already know. Hey, this is coming. This is how you can be prepared, you know, Make sure you don't. You don't touch your face. Me. Make sure your hands are always clean, Okay? And then for most part, you should be fine. Then I think I think people will be a less a lot less scared and have a lot less inside the than we have today in our society where you know, even if someone starts coughing and it's probably just a common flu where you and just just cough, people start moving away from their person. And maybe it is the right thing to do. Ah, anyways, that's let's talk about the other thing is, um, so tracking, you know, I can be used for tracking and die and outbreaks. But what about diagnosing? Right. So, Okay, now that it's spreading how to be diagnosed if somebody actually has Corona virus or not. Well, this is where So there's another intelligence company called in for vision, which is actually helping, you know it's developing tools which health workers can use in hospitals. And they can detect and monitor if somebody has covert 19 or not a lot easier. So today, you know, as we talked about in the very beginning, there's only so many test kits they're available. But how can we make that make a lot more test cases and easier testing available for health workers? So even if you're walking into the hospital, for example, you know what? If you play certain tools, that's monitoring people coming in similar to the smart helmets that we talked about that can actually alert and hey, divert those people in a different room, right? Like, let's let's keep them separate from everyone else who's coming into the hospital for some other reason. I mean, that's the other scary thing today. It's like even if you broke your arm of something else happened. Well, now you are the risk off sitting in. I I'm pretty sure most the hospitals in North America have things in place where they actually, you know, checking people as they come in and isolating them if they have fever and what not just in case. So I hope that's not the situation. But if you think about it, right, like I mean, it is one of one of it is pretty scary that if you ran in for you broke your arm or anything. Now we have the potential sitting next to somebody who may actually be there for Corona Virus.

spk_0:   22:29
Huh? I honestly hope what? Corona virus and all, All anything out. Anything else, right? Anything else that you're into sitting in there,

spk_1:   22:35
right,

spk_0:   22:36
Right. It's Ah 11 says, Be accessible like I take my kids Thio the pediatrician, right? And we were there for, like, a regular checkup. And sometimes we're not there for a regular checkup. Boy is that call like a room packed full of kids in there, right, touching things, doing things like, you know, that

spk_1:   22:52
pact of germs. Yeah, yeah, No, it's well, that's where telehealth I think it's it's getting It's big because so even the other day on lengthen, I saw some someone posting. Hey, what kind of tell health tools is everyone using? Because doctors, even in primary primary clinic doctors, they don't want people flooding into those clinics right? That should be better ways off of diagnosing people on the phone. Probably better if it's faced, you know, very confused. Something like Skype or any of their tool very can actually see somebody face to face over, um, over the Internet. But yeah, I'm Intel. Health is another tool that's going to take off right, because up this whole situation, people are going. And we talked about this a few weeks ago for a couple months ago where he said, Hey, telehealth is one of the other tools that that is going to be more and more useful just because you you're actually like you said. I mean, you don't want even if it's something really small, you know, you are actually putting our kids at risk. Once you go and sit at the clinic waiting and and you know you're not you're exposing them to you. Probably a lot of the things. So the other thing I mean, you know, talking about a I drones, like if you are sick, like we are all isolating ourselves right, and And if you are sick, well, now, like I have heard some of these stories in Italy where they were saying, you know, it's pretty bad that right? I mean, people are. People are not getting medications, and even if they're really ill, or even if they are there, you know, if they passed away like some of those people are not getting attention just because everyone is scared, they don't want to get close to anyone having coronavirus. Well, okay, then. What about if he used drones to drop medical supplies to people who are affected? And now you're not exposing a health worker to that virus, which which is another? You know, another thing that I think, Ah, we'll learn from the situation. And I think next time maybe we'll have better e i drones that can be used to drop supplies really quick right into people's houses. And and these are the ways I mean there, I think technology is gonna help out a lot. Um, with this situation, I mean, the other other stuff is ok identifying, you know, using I like we talked about the whole identifying individuals who may actually be affected by this wires and one of the ah, one of the service in China. And this one is called sense Time. Ridge identifies people with fever and some other symptoms too, you know, that, then it'll actually say, Yep. This person does have a Corona virus, but yeah, I mean, these are These are some of the tools and technologies that we will use even Maurin future. Just to be bad, Absolute. In this situation,

spk_0:   26:12
it's it's going to it's going to boom a different industry for sure. You know, telehealth agree 100% you know that That's Ah, that's gonna boom. Um, with the company is just coming out. They're gonna be advertising it for that service, right? This is right. This is gonna be private. Most likely, right?

spk_1:   26:32
Yeah. And a lot of tell held. You know, there's a lot of different tools already available. Lot of different service is already available, but the other thing is like we talked about the whole extending the each are in the last episode. Okay, so you have all your health data in your ear, char. But if you are not prepared already can easily plug in. All these service is so you know, if you're not ready to extend your electronic health record, it's not gonna help you. You should be at that situation Where? Okay, Yes. We need to use drones for you know, from our pharmacy, we need to send these medications. OK, a drone service is available. I able to plug it in. Ah, you know. So these are the kind of questions that are going to come up Just because you have an electronic health record doesn't mean you're prepared. So there is some groundwork that I think health systems will have to put in and get the framework ready and and Yeah, I would you know, again, it's kind of, you know, the last episodes about the whole extending the HR might actually be a little timely, too, because there is a lot of work to be done in terms of using Cloud service is in terms of having the framework in place where if these tools, if the service is air available to combat something like Corbett 19 you can actually take advantage off that you're not running around at the last minute trying to update your infrastructure to say OK, yes. Now we can. We can plug in our you know that these drones who can, um, supply the medications to somebody or the medical supplies, or we can actually use something like infra vision to help diagnose patients as they're walking in. Okay, then you know, you should be able to use all these tools. You should be able to use all the technology.

spk_0:   28:27
So are you saying that the number one thing that that these hospitals should be doing is keeping updated cloud, having a better cloud system? You think that that's the number one thing that they should be focusing on?

spk_1:   28:37
Yes. I mean, I think they should be. Well, they should be looking at their their capabilities today. Right? Just because you have any HR doesn't mean you're ready. You should look at the infrastructure you have. You should look at how you can use cloud service is so that you can plug in all these tools easily. Ah, again, easily is always relative. But again,

spk_0:   29:04
I mean, you just can't just literally plug it in and out. But But if

spk_1:   29:10
you do have that frame, or

spk_0:   29:11
maybe with a I,

spk_1:   29:12
you know it instead of 10 steps, it's three steps, right? If you're if you're ready. But yeah, I think these other things that people are going to have to really look into once we can get around this whole You know once once the situation is stable, but yes, I mean, I think this was eye opening. I think for a lot of people, I mean, we have now it's eye opening in. Terms of our health systems are not very prepared for something like this. Were definitely not anybody's over system. No,

spk_0:   29:46
maybe South Korea a little bit. But in Singapore, South Korean, Singapore?

spk_1:   29:50
Yeah, it's It's astonishing how many tests South Korea was doing in a day.

spk_0:   29:54
Yeah, they were doing. They I think they are still doing for every 1,000,000 about, like, 3100 tests.

spk_1:   30:02
And how are they getting access to all these tests? Like border? They were they just prepared, or how did they suddenly come up with, you know? Yeah, we have. We have all the Corbett 19 tests right here. I mean, produced.

spk_0:   30:14
I think we've all had tests. I think they've had tests available even with I was listening to the daily recently, the daily podcast. And, uh, they were talking about how even in the states, um, he had a test ready, but it wasn't. It wasn't ready for FDA approval.

spk_1:   30:30
Is that right?

spk_0:   30:31
You know, we'll find out

spk_1:   30:34
so They just expedited the whole approval in South Korea for these tests. And then Okay, let's manufacture these

spk_0:   30:41
essentially. Whereas I think by the sounds of this podcast, it was, um it was just them that had it. I think I think there was others that who had it. Um, it's just didn't couldn't get through the the process, make it available.

spk_1:   30:56
Right? And no, that's That's they are. I think they South Korea has probably done the most testing, so their numbers are probably most trustworthy than than anyone else. And China? Probably. So we you know, we never really know 100%. But everywhere else there's not enough test kits available. So But anyways, I mean, that's the whole the whole another industry or supply chain that needs to be really

spk_0:   31:34
get. We should get somebody. You know, anybody.

spk_1:   31:37
Yeah, I can I can look into that, actually, Yeah, Maybe we should do. Yeah, but let's so the other you know, we talked about a I and, you know, like some of the ah, some of the things that probably will not happen this time. But even some of the simple stuff, like, for example, keeping people informed in your region, right? Like if you have, if you're a hospital that's serving a five county or 10 county region and the people are looking to you for the right information for the right advice. Hey, when should actually go to EA RN? Should I call my doctor? Well, make sure you have the right information available on your website. Writes a lot of our clients. They're doing an amazing job. They work with our team, our Web team, to keep their Web site's updated. But these are some of the really simple things that can be done to help people. Um, you know, make sure that they're informed, right? And what steps to be take what steps are to be taken when you're feeling a certain way, you know, Don't just rush into the hospital, you know, call ahead, for example, and let them know. Hey, these are the symptoms that I'm feeling. What should I do? Right. And then they'll be prepared when you actually walk in, and they will be able to help you better.

spk_0:   33:00
Well, Vick, look, this this week's been crazy. I'm I'm I can't wait, and I would rather not see what the next week's gonna come unless it's something. Unless it's something good. But, you know, I think I think I think we haven't hit that hit that point yet. I feel in my gut anyways, but ah, I think that's a wrap for this episode over here. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. So you never miss an episode. Vic. I hope you see, I hope I see you next week. We get the chat next week.

spk_1:   33:30
Yeah. I mean, I think it will be over Skype. You may. Yeah. And, you know, I just hope the situation gets better really soon and and, you know, it doesn't go on too long, but I think I think we'll come out. I'm staying positive, right? I think we'll come out strong. It's a society. We gonna learn our lessons. And again, we're gonna use technology and everything that's available. Br You know, at the end of the day, human race is really smart. We will overcome this, But we do have to take some precautions and and I hope everyone does. But you stay safe, Jimmy,

spk_0:   34:10
Dogs listen and you listen it out. Everyone, stay safe. Stay healthy. Uh, love you can a little extra. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What